Various streaming and specific domain loading time issues

I am seeing long load times on apple.com pages, whereas Google pages are fast. Likewise Amazon Prime streaming is absolutely fine, but for the last 2 days Apple TV has really struggled, both loading images in menus and streaming. At 8pm yesterday streaming stopping working altogether, whereas today it works but it takes ages to start.

I had been using Cloudflare DNS (1.1.1.3) but switched over to Google (8.8.8.8) however this hasn’t resolved the issues.

I thought it might be Cloudflare CDNs but their service pages don’t report any issues.

are there backbone capacity issues in Cloudflare or Akamai or something? Or are issues coming from within Yayzi connectivity to these?

I’m not a network expert (no more than most but not anywhere near enough to be an expert) so I’m willing to trying out some tests if you can help point me in the direction of tools I can use to try things out.

Finally worth mentioning I’ve done basic speed tests and connection is fine - continually fast as ever - so I’ve either got a networking issue from my house (I use my own UniFi gateway with the tplink as a modem only) or my chosen DNS, or my IP being seen in the wrong country, or (I suspect) backbone issues not necessarily on Yayzis network but affected because of backbone issues I don’t really understand how to diagnose.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

This was posted on reddit, not sure if its related. But apple.com is the common theme.

Reddit poster was trying to download this app

That’s interesting as we have been having issues with Sky Stream recently and some issues with social media platforms (Facebook and Instagram videos or reels).
I have tried all manner of things, but do note that switching over to my Lebara (Vodaphone) 4G backup the problems resolve.
I rebooted the UCG-Max and Fibre box today, but now other issues have arisen - max connection speeds are down to 200Mbps both directions now.
Wife is also reporting that some sites are loading images very slowly - and sometimes not at all - her latest complaint was about the Ikea app.

So here’s a thing, went to apple which redirects to …/uk/?cid=oas-emeia-domains-apple.co.uk/

Watched the chrome network tab and this image took over a minute to download:


So maybe mzstatic is a problem for Apple to resolve? No idea but I suspect there’s some weird routing issue that is sending the traffic via the moon or something (like I said I know enough to be able to jump to wrong conclusions but nowhere near enough to be able to figure out whats going on)

Open powershell or command prompt on your computer and type tracert apple.com
See which route its taking. Does the apple.com website load in a reasonable time?

Next issue, I have been (successfully) streaming Apple TV for last 30min, now its stuttering again.

Jumped onto (ookla) speed test and looks absolutely fine - fast/constant connection and low ping.

really slow, pings don’ts show the delays between each line:

 tracert apple.com

Tracing route to apple.com [17.253.144.10]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.0.1
  3     3 ms     3 ms     3 ms  154.60.95.1
  4     3 ms     4 ms     3 ms  te0-1-0-3-4.ccr22.lon01.atlas.cogentco.com [149.14.145.41]
  5     *        3 ms     3 ms  globalcrossing.dfw03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.14.18]
  6     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  7     3 ms     3 ms     2 ms  xe-0-2-0.cr1.lhr1.uk.nlayer.net [217.163.45.122]
  8     3 ms     3 ms     3 ms  applejava.apple.com [17.253.144.10]

Trace complete.

Have you got 2 routers in place?

The time doing the tracert hops is just dns resolution on the hops.

You can do tracert -d
That will output just IPs addresses and will be much quicker.

I don’t THINK so but might have it all configured wrong.

I’ve a Unifi UDM security gateway that everything is connected to, this connect to the TPlink route which is supposed to be acting (only) as a modem. Maybe its configured wrong but has been working fine for months.

It does look like maybe a double NAT situation

Just connect the UDM to the ONT directly

Set VLAN 911

tracert -d apple.com

Tracing route to apple.com [17.253.144.10]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.0.1
  3     4 ms     3 ms     4 ms  154.60.95.1
  4     3 ms     3 ms     3 ms  149.14.145.41
  5     *     154.60.95.221  reports: Destination host unreachable.

Trace complete.

There is no reason to have another router in front of the UDM, though. Connect the UDM to the ONT and on the WAN side of the UDM, Set it to VLAN 911

It may take 10-15 minutes to climatise

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dumb question - do I need a Yayzi/cityfibre password for this? They set it up so I’ve no idea a) if there is one or b) what it is.

No, no password is needed

See the screenshot for the settings

Just keep In mind it may not work straight away, don’t worry, leave it for 15 minutes and you should be good to go again

ok back online, seems Yayzi has assigned me a new IP. This is much more neat, going to see if it resolves the streaming issues now.

Thanks for the help so far!

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I hope it does help

Apple issues still remain, so I connected to a VPN and it resolved everything.

Could my IP be on some sort of blacklist or something?

What ip range are you on? Only need first two octets 123.456.x.x

I didn’t think moving routers around would fix this specific issue you are seeing if every other domain/streaming service works fine. Although its better not to double nat where possible.